Why not estimate? Think different for story point estimation.

The Agile Community talks a lot about Estimation and need for it. A large majority have different opinions, but when it comes to teams and organizations that are transforming to Scrum, mostly suffer in group estimation and story point estimation technique. 

Agile primarily focus on value based deliver and that doesn't need estimation. 

This presentation enrich those audience who need estimations for their project/product development, with details that make estimates better. At the same time it doesn't advocate estimation as a must have for product development.

Following 4 aspects will be connected to story point estimation and help audience understand the story-point estimation.

1. Concept of Accuracy and Precession

2. Cone of Uncertainty

3. Story point Estimation scale

4. Group Estimation and Relative Estimation

Teams struggle in estimating the product backlog items. Composition of estimation: any estimate is a mix of "the known, unknown and complexity". The presentation shall also connect estimation thoughts to product backlog and the cone of uncertainty

 
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Outline/structure of the Session

Presentation & Short estimation activity.

Learning Outcome

Key take away for Participants,

1. Clear understanding on where they are going wrong in their current estimation at work.

2. Connecting the dots to help new teams / scrum masters to understand how and why storypoint estimation.

3. Shall enable them to build their own scale if required.

Target Audience

Scrum Masters, Team Members, Product Owners

schedule Submitted 3 years ago

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  • Nitin Ramrakhyani
    By Nitin Ramrakhyani  ~  3 years ago
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    Hi Naveen,

    Not sure if you have got any notification earlier, but can you answer to Sachin's questions. We went through your presentation, but it seems very generic as of now. The need for 'estimatation' is generally undersood fairly well, it is the context and extent up to which you can do it predictably is what puzzles most. It might help if you focus on :-

    1. Any specific issues/ challanges that you have seen in Story point/ relative sizing estimations(as those are extensively used by Agile teams)?
    2. How is your talk helping the audience in overcoming estmation issues(if there are any)
    3. Any other concrete takeaway that audience will get from your talk.

    Above will just help the review team in shortlisting the proposals. :-)

    Thanks,

    Nitin

    • Naveen Nanjundappa
      By Naveen Nanjundappa  ~  3 years ago
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      1. Any specific issues/ challanges that you have seen in Story point/ relative sizing estimations(as those are extensively used by Agile teams)?
      • <Naveen> Mostly Agile teams don't understand the story point scale (for example - Fibonacci sequence). This presentation would help agile teams understand the story point scale and how they can leverage on the multiple levels of planning and estimation at each level.

       

      1. How is your talk helping the audience in overcoming estimations
      • <Naveen>Understanding the Scrum frame work's multilevel planning and how estimate are connected, audience will be able to re-think about estimation and how to do it effectively if required for their organization.

       

      1. Any other concrete takeaway that audience will get from your talk.

      <Naveen>Key take away for Participants,

      1. Clear understanding on where they are going wrong in their current estimation at work.

      2. Connecting the dots to help new teams / scrum masters to understand how and why story point estimation.

       3. Shall enable them to build their own scale if required.

      4. Also rethink about the need for estimation.

    • Naveen Nanjundappa
      By Naveen Nanjundappa  ~  3 years ago
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      Hi Nitin,

      I got the message today, I will get back to you soon. (end of time)

      I am reachable on 9980505003; if we can have a quick call and discuss, that would also be good.

      Thanks,

      Naveen Nanjundappa

  • Sachin goel
    By Sachin goel  ~  3 years ago
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    Hi Naveen,

    Thanks for your submission, it does look interesting. I went though the slides and one question keeps popping : how does this relate to Agile. There is one slide which has reference to Iterations etc, I otherwise felt this is more relevant to any s/w development method.

    Curious to know if you can add any flavour to your proposal so that it becomes relevant for agile projects better.

    Also I suspect there could be thoughts against estimation - how do you deal with them?

    Thanks,

    Sachin

    • Naveen Nanjundappa
      By Naveen Nanjundappa  ~  3 years ago
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      Hi Sachin,

      I spoke to Nitin, explained him my thoughts. Based on the discussion i have updated the summary of the presentation above. 

      I agree that Estimation is a general software development topic. The content here is going to be how the know aspects of software development, estimation and agile get linked in Story point estimation. 

      when teams change from traditional to scrum, the management expects them to do estimation on story points, but team find it hard to understand the story point estimation. Usually the planning poker and fibbonacci numbers are discussed but team members don't know why we do, what we do.

      I am strong believer in value based (no-estimate) development and delivery, but the organisations still in the estimate world so I find it relevant to discuss about estimation in agile world.

      Yes, handling thoughts against estimation is going to be a debatable situation, but since i have already delivered 2-3 talks on estimation so far, I know where people will get stuck and I will always point them to principles of agile and principles of software development. that way we agree to disagree. More over I am not advocating "must do estimation" so, I don't see a conflict.

      my contact number is 9980505003, I will be happy to discuss with you if more information is needed. 

       

      Thanks,

      Naveen Nanjundappa

    • Naveen Nanjundappa
      By Naveen Nanjundappa  ~  3 years ago
      reply Reply

      Hi Sachin,

      I got the message today, I will get back to you soon. (end of time)

      I am reachable on 9980505003; if we can have a quick call and discuss, that would also be good.

      Thanks,

      Naveen Nanjundappa


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